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by That's funny! March 21, 2012 9:47 AM


Gee TF, I hadn't visited Little Green Footballs since he turned pinko.

So the message seems to be that there are trolls on the Fox site? Is that right?

Seems mild when compared with the stupidity you have spewed here on the Vine.

Don't you call everybody a fuckwit?

By the way you never did say what "saparific" means...
















by Insert clever name here March 21, 2012 10:10 AM


So there's a$$holes in the world; leave it to you to find them.


You should form a club.



by doccustodian March 21, 2012 10:19 AM


i watched o'reilly and he asked all pertinent questions,rec'd answers and
all indicated some more investigations
were needed and he closed with "let justice
be served". in other words,investigate,
analyze and charge,arrest or declare that
the original opinion was correct.
we have one network that reports both sides
yet you spew venom;wise up,whitewash will
fade and truth will come out.
by dblbogey2 March 21, 2012 10:30 AM


we have one network that reports both sides
yet you spew venom;wise up,whitewash will
fade and truth will come out.
by dblbogey2 March 21, 2012 10:30 AM

haaaaahahahahahahahahahahaha....wheeeeeeew


Truth is out, he shot the kid in "self defense" because the Florida law permits you to "stand your ground" and defend yourself!!!

by forgotmypassword March 21, 2012 10:46 AM


If Trayvon is white he is alive.

Zimmerman needs to be put on trial. No matter what the real story is, if he isn't found guilty, there will be violence.

And once again, nothing will be done to get to the root of the problem.
by YATI March 21, 2012 10:49 AM


i watched o'reilly
by dblbogey2 March 21, 2012 10:30 AM

Bwaahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

I knew it. I figured you were getting your facts from that dipshit.
by Unfair and Imbalanced March 21, 2012 11:01 AM


If Trayvon is white he is alive.

Zimmerman needs to be put on trial. No matter what the real story is, if he isn't found guilty, there will be violence.

And once again, nothing will be done to get to the root of the problem.
by YATI March 21, 2012 10:49 AM

Yati, I almost agree with you. I would prefer to leave race out of this, although it seems that there may be an element of racial profiling, however we cannot know that to be the case.

What we do know is losers like Zimmerman are always looking for a way to equalize their inadequacies and a law like this gives them the right to murder.

I would like to hear your idea of what is the "root of the problem"
by forgotmypassword March 21, 2012 11:15 AM


did he not say "let justice be served'?
you're the dipshit!

this our due process of law,moron.
unfortunately,yati is correct and violence
will come from latinos,another minority.
where/when will this end?

maybe,do away w/sanctity of marriage,be like
dogs-hump any and all until we're just
racially heinz 57.what will you libs bitch
about then?


by dblbogey2 March 21, 2012 11:26 AM


Protect the gun. Protect the gun. Protect the gun. That's all that matters.
by the good thing is, you don't need no bug spray in the Louisiana Bayou March 21, 2012 11:32 AM


dblbogey2...Wow dude...you are a mess!! I mean that as respectfully as possible.
by forgotmypassword March 21, 2012 11:43 AM


Forgot,

Can we hold off for a little bit before determining that Zimmerman is a loser? Neither of us were there or know him. Everyone is talking about how the kid only had some skittles and a can of ice tea. If someone is hitting you in the head with a can of ice tea, I bet you would consider it a serious weapon, and if you had a gun as your only defenese, you would use it. Is that what happened? I don't know. If when Zimmerman asked the kid what he was doing there and the kid would have replied "Sir, I'm just visiting my girl friend." He may very well still be alive.

We don't know what was going through either of their heads. Zimmerman may have been thinking "I'm going to kill this "N". The kid may have been thinking, "I'm not taking any shit from this white dude"

The root of the problem is that whity is scared of young black youth. And young black youth do a lot to perpetuate this, and like the feeling of power it gives them. This is not just a black kids issue. A lot of kids don't show respect for others no matter what their age. Do black kids get labeled as being violent more than other races, sure they do. Why? Turn on the TV and watch the news.

I saw one interview of someone that lives in the neighborhood who mentioned they had numerous robberies lately, and the perpetrators were black. Does that justify the shooting, hell no, but it is understandable that seeing a black kid you don't know in your neighborhood might make you nervous.

But all we will here from Sharpton and crew now is "No justice No peace" and Zimmerman is a racist. All it will do is make things worse because they won't give any consideration as to what made the shooter scared in the first place.

Was Zimmerman a racist or a scared man? I think he was a scared man and that's why he hasn't been arrested yet. I don't think the cops thought, "It's just a black kid, who cares if he got shot". But that's what Sharpton and crew want everyone to believe.


by YATI March 21, 2012 12:07 PM


"no matter what their age."

Should be "No matter what their race"
by YATI March 21, 2012 12:10 PM


...if he was so scared, YATI, I must ask, then why the hell was he following the kid after the 911 operator clearly said, "We don't need you to do that sir" (or something to that effect)?

Not knowing the man, it sounds like he was in to something he clearly had no business being in.
by jusross March 21, 2012 12:17 PM


yati,logic doesn't work when victim is
black and perpetrator isn't.

o'reilly said let justice prevail.

imo,zimmerman was wrong but system says
innocent until....!

the local police made a decision,uproar
resulted.since fl appears to be a racially
diverse state(not sure of stats)this could
be a mess.

as for a mess,forgotmypassword,i've been
called worse but my opinion is remains
my right.expound if you want to,i do have
a thick skin and a forgiving spirit.
by dblbogey2 March 21, 2012 12:31 PM


jusross,

If cops could magically appear in a nano second, I would agree with you. If it is your job to help protect your neighborhood, are you just going to run away and hope the cops get there?

911 operators are almost always going to tell you to wait for the cops. Hind sight is always 20/20.
by YATI March 21, 2012 12:34 PM


Can we hold off for a little bit before determining that Zimmerman is a loser?

No, we cant, he is 28 years old doing community fking watch for christ sake!!! He is packing heat to watch a gated community in Sanford FL!!!!!


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by rjdillon March 21, 2012 12:41 PM


Everyone is talking about how the kid only had some skittles and a can of ice tea. If someone is hitting you in the head with a can of ice tea, I bet you would consider it a serious weapon, and if you had a gun as your only defenese, you would use it.


No i wouldn't, i'm not a loser, Zimmerman is clearly 200+ lbs and the kid looks like a bean.
by rjdillon March 21, 2012 12:44 PM


Could you be a little more specific other than just putting up a link that would take an hour to read?

Bad things happen in nice places.

You don't know what happened and neither do I. But I bet if a 17 year old was caving your head in with can of ice tea, you would wish you had a gun.

Do the cops in Sanford have a history of letting people off the hook if the victim is black?

WE DON'T KNOW HOW IT ALL HAPPENED.
by YATI March 21, 2012 12:49 PM


No i wouldn't, i'm not a loser, Zimmerman is clearly 200+ lbs and the kid looks like a bean.
by rjdillon March 21, 2012 12:44 PM

Does Zimmerman look like he is in shape to you?

by YATI March 21, 2012 12:51 PM


You writing is a mess....try a space after commas.
by forgotmypassword March 21, 2012 12:53 PM


did he not say "let justice be served'?
you're the dipshit!
by dblbogey2 March 21, 2012 11:26 AM

I dont care what he said. I just think its funny you turn the assclown on and watch him. Thats all.
by Unfair and Imbalanced March 21, 2012 1:31 PM


First: The police in this case were grossly negligent in their duty. When you arrive at a scene and there is a dead guy and a guy that shot him, the process is that you arrest (you don't have to be guilty to be arrested) and then you let the DA determine whether or not to charge. Period. I heard a cop talk about it today. No if's, and's, or but's.

Secondly: If the police had arrived and it was the other way around, the black kid goes to jail. Period.

Thirdly: The Florida law (written by the NRA and introduced into the legislator by one of their brethren allows DEADLY FORCE in the face of NON-DEADLY force. You just have to SUBJECTIVELY believe that you may be seriously injured. Under that standard, a kid with Skittles and a soda who is as young as that kid can still pose that threat if YOU BELIEVE he does. The fact they did not allow an OBJECTIVE STANDARD (would a reasonable person in that situation believe their life was threatened) is an example of an unjust law. Murder standards are OBJECTIVE...hell, almost ALL criminal standards require an OBJECTIVE STANDARD. Yet this guy can get off if a jury believes HE and ONLY HE believed the kid posed a risk of SERIOUS INJURY (NOT DEATH) to him?

This is what happens when you allow fear based stupidity to influence law making.

Ultimately, Zimmerman (under this law) is likely NOT GUILTY. That places the blood of this INNOCENT KID on the hands of the Florida legislature who passed this law, and the NRA. If only we could try them for murder for being complete fucking idiots.

by Thoughtforfood March 21, 2012 1:34 PM


This seems like it SHOULD be manslaughter, at best....2nd degree murder at worst.

Looks like this kid was guilty of "walking while black".
by The Tolerant Educator March 21, 2012 1:49 PM


This is what happens when you allow fear based stupidity to influence law making.

Like health care &
Cap and trade?

by Frank N Furter March 21, 2012 1:51 PM


What the citidata link shows is; occurrences of violent crime in the town are so limited that a reasonable person should not expect to encounter a life or death situation as would be more expected in the Miami inner city. This is not a city with a history of gang violence that would lead a reasonable person to believe that a young person would be armed.

He is a loser, who was waiting for chance to use his weapon.
by rjdillon March 21, 2012 1:52 PM


Skittles and a can of tea requires the use of a gun? Really?

Zimmerman should NOT be doing this neighborhood watch job. From what I can tell, the ONLY reason he is does this job is because he can carry a gun. It makes him feel tough. He obviously has no other line of defense other than that.

This is a 17 year old kid with a can of tea and a bag of skittles. I can think of 300 other ways to defend yourself, other than the use of a gun.

TFF is exactly right. This is what happens when you pass a law, and clueless people like Zimmerman really dont understand how it SHOULD work.

You want to carry a gun? You need to go through more than a background check and some gun handling training, IMO. People who carry should have to pass some sort of " what will I do when I panic under certain situations" classes, or something.
by Unfair and Imbalanced March 21, 2012 2:13 PM


What the citidata link shows is; occurrences of violent crime in the town are so limited that a reasonable person should not expect to encounter a life or death situation as would be more expected in the Miami inner city. This is not a city with a history of gang violence that would lead a reasonable person to believe that a young person would be armed.

He is a loser, who was waiting for chance to use his weapon.
by rjdillon March 21, 2012 1:52 PM

That is completely irrelevant unfortunately. This law allows SUBJECTIVE PERCEPTION meaning, what the entire community thinks is not important. It is only whether this SPECIFIC PERSON believes their life is in danger.

That is the stupidity of the law.

by Thoughtforfood March 21, 2012 2:54 PM


Like health care &
Cap and trade?

by Frank N Furter March 21, 2012 1:51

Pull your skirt down, your ignorance is showing.

by Thoughtforfood March 21, 2012 2:55 PM


Once more here we find ourselves having to defend our beloved guns because some bonehead ghetto rats decides to take a few bullets.
Usn's republicans knows which side of the lardstick our oxicotin is buttered on.
I mean, come on librals, here is this black kid with some skittles who ain't doin' what a white guy is telling him fast enough: what would you do if you had a gun?
by bury sean hannity at wounded knee March 21, 2012 3:09 PM


A smile and a friendly greeting from either Zimmerman or Traymon, and this whole situation doesn't happen.

Zimmerman was the adult, and should have knoow better.

But it seems everyone here knows exactly what happened and exactly what the two individuals were like and how they thought.

TFF and BS boy,

I don't recall you blaming the NRA or whining about gun rights after this happened, and got national attention.

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by YATI March 21, 2012 4:05 PM


TFF,

Was Florida a right to carry state before this law was passed? Maybe it wasn't an you are right.

I doubt Zimmerman knew about this law and thought, Hey I can shoot this kid because of the law that was passed.
by YATI March 21, 2012 4:10 PM


Only a total Republican idiot couldn't see through this unexcusable act of violence. Just when I think you guys can't get any dumber, you manage to take it up a notch.
Man, just stupid, just stupid.
by bury sean hannity at wounded knee March 21, 2012 4:31 PM


TFF and BS boy,

I don't recall you blaming the NRA or whining about gun rights after this happened, and got national attention.

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by YATI March 21, 2012 4:05 PM

I understand the difference between the two. I have no problem with the Castle Doctrine. The fact that this woman didn't know she could shoot him has nothing to do with a person on the street, who is the aggressor, pursuing and killing an unarmed person and getting away with it because they subjectively believed there was a threat of serious bodily injury.

Nor does it excuse the police's gross deriliction of duty in not arresting the guy and letting the DA decide whether to bring charges. Policemen ARE NOT charged with determining whether charges should be brought. They didn't even take this guy in for questioning. They told him NOT to follow the kid.

Like it or not, this has to do with race. Period. If the black kid had done the shooting, he goes to jail. Self defense is just that, A DEFENSE, meaning the proper avenue and time for that to be considered is FIRST by a DA and then by a court if the Grand Jury indicts. It was not the job of the police to determine ANYTHING in a case like that.
by Thoughtforfood March 21, 2012 4:44 PM


YATI,

This has nothing to do with right to carry. That is a separate issue. This has to do with a state that does not require a duty to retreat. Only most states that do not require a duty to retreat statutes ONLY apply to a NON-AGGRESSOR. This guy was armed and approached the kid (based on his admitting that he was following the kid on the 911 tape), and in Florida, THAT IS ALLOWED. Not only that, but in Florida, you only have to believe you are in danger of serious bodily injury SUBJECTIVELY.

Those last two points differ from every other state I know of (I am sure Arizona and Texas are probably similar), and it is travesty of justice (not to mention idiotic lawmaking) to allow that to be the case. And you can thank the NRA because THEY WROTE THE FREAKING BILL.
by Thoughtforfood March 21, 2012 4:50 PM


If you read the statute, most likely, Zimmerman is NOT GUILTY. That isn't his fault. That is the fault of the Florida legislature.

So now, you have a bunch of Republicans DEFENDING the killing of an unarmed person on the streets. Glad I don't have to do that because it is indefensible in my opinion.

This blood is on the hands of the Florida legislature (and J. Bush) for creating such an unjust law.

by Thoughtforfood March 21, 2012 4:55 PM


Zimmerman followed the kid. Case closed. The guy should have been locked up.
by That's funny! March 21, 2012 5:01 PM


TFF,

Seriously, do you think this law had anything to do with Zimmerman pulling the trigger?

This guy does need to go to trial, and he may get off. But too judge the Florida law by this one instance is not right.

The intent of the Florida law was not to let whites shoot blacks without a valid reason.

If an unarmed man attacked you wife and she had a gun and used it, you would want this law to keep her out of jail.

A lot of liberals have defended the Miranda law even though many obviously guilty people have gotten off because of it. Is the "Blood on the hands" of the people that passed that law for every criminal that got off because of it?

Let me know when you find the perfect law.


by YATI March 21, 2012 5:12 PM


YATI,

First, whether it had anything to do with Zimmerman pulling the trigger is irrelevant to my point.

Secondly, I am not judging the Florida law just by this. I am judging it by what is required for proof regarding other criminal defenses and crimes. I don't thing you fully (and it is not fair that I should think you would because I didn't until I studied the law) understand how contrary allowing a subjective standard is in something like that. It not only goes against the laws of almost everything criminal, it goes against the theoretical basis for crime and punishment.

Thirdly: To allow an AGGRESSOR (again, I cannot fault you for not knowing how important that distinction is to a defense of self defense) to use a defense OF ANY KIND is almost unheard of. He had a gun. He followed the kid. The only way the kid becomes an aggressor if the kid pulled a gun and Zimmerman had only used non-deadly force prior to that.

The reason this case (and the Florida legislature) is getting so much press is just how unprecedented this law is in comparison to the laws of almost every other jurisdiction in the country. I haven't checked the case law in every state, but I can tell you this. I have read hours and hours of cases involving this issue and I have never seen a statute with those two features ANYWHERE else.

As for Miranda, typically, you use the conservative talking point of why it is defended, and the real reason for the ruling has nothing to do with why conservatives say liberals support it. Not to mention the fact that you don't get off because liberals support Miranda rights, people get off because sometimes Police do shit that they shouldn't. Miranda is NOT A MYSTERY. It is EASY to implement.

You also fall into the conservative argument that uses BY FAR THE EXCEPTION as though it is the norm. People getting off for violation of Miranda rights is a very rare thing. The police are well trained, and don't fuck that up very often.

This law isn't "imperfect." This law is unconscionable in a society that is supposed to be about justice. Period.

by Thoughtforfood March 21, 2012 5:41 PM


Zimmerman followed the kid. Case closed. The guy should have been locked up.
by That's funny! March 21, 2012 5:01 PM

Unfortunately, the laws of Florida allow that. The guy is likely not guilty under Florida law. The law they wrote is very specific, and from what I heard, he didn't violate it because he can be the aggressor AND all he has to do is believe he is at risk of serious bodily injury subjectively.

I don't think most of the people here understand that it is almost impossible to prove a person didn't subjectively believe something because you cannot crawl into someone's brain.

That is why the law generally uses an objective standard. Then you get to look at what a reasonable person in the same situation would believe. Here, there is nothing reasonable about the situation, but that doesn't matter one bit because of the way the Florida legislature wrote the law.

by Thoughtforfood March 21, 2012 5:46 PM


This self defense gun stuff makes no sense logistically.

If someone is attacking me and i need to defend myself, at what point would i be able to reach for my weapon?

If they have a weapon and they see me reaching for my weapon, otherwise i am using a gun to defend myself against someone who is unarmed??

I mean, i know i'm a silly New Yorker, but i just don't get it.

Guns are for hunting and protecting your home, they shouldn't be in the streets. That sht is dumb.
by forgotmypassword March 21, 2012 5:54 PM


TFF,

I shouldn't have thrown "liberal" into my miranda argument. It protects me as well. That protection that I value, also comes with the fact that some obviously guilty criminals get off. Some say it went too far, you say the Florida law goes to far. I do not know the details of the Florida law and would have made the same comments I did if it existed or not.

This whole thing is really more about racial politics than the Florida law anyway. Mix it up however you want, if Zimmerman or Trayvon are the same race, this most likely doesn't get national attention.

If the example of self defense I posted above involved too black intruders, Al and pals would have been there demonstrating.

Turning this into an NRA thing without looking at the cases were legal gun ownership saves lives, is not right.
by YATI March 21, 2012 5:57 PM


Anyone who thinks this is morally defensible is an idiot. You 'conservatives' have no shame; just bitter anger and bigotry: you are not worth spit. And it is no wonder America is falltering.
by bury sean hannity at wounded knee March 21, 2012 6:01 PM


Forgot,

"Guns are for hunting and protecting your home, they shouldn't be in the streets. That sht is dumb."

I respect your opinion, but that makes no sense to me. If someone is trying to rape my 115 lb wife in our home, you are cool with her having a gun to protect herself. If it happens on her walk to the parking lot from work you're not.

by YATI March 21, 2012 6:02 PM


BS,

Still having trouble with you reading comprehention I see. Did I not say the guy should be tried?


by YATI March 21, 2012 6:13 PM


Yati, you win the award for SSSOB aka' Simple Simon Son Of A Bitc$! Most parents instill in their children as tots 'not to talk to strangers'. If approached by a stranger scream for help and fight for your life. IMO Trayvon fought, screamed for help and fought for his life. And the Sanford police dept. shamelessly, treated this dead kid like picking up trash off the street. Where's from the right? Didn't he post his killing experience not so very long ago. We need him to chime in about his White Hispanic Latino heritage! Maybe he's laying low and avoiding the white racist aka Yati throw your ass up under the bus racist rhetoric!
by cspatmon March 21, 2012 7:08 PM


I mean, i know i'm a silly New Yorker, but i just don't get it.

by forgotmypassword March 21, 2012 5:54 PM
by Frank N Furter March 21, 2012 7:10 PM


cspats,

You really shouldn't try to participate in a conversation that involves logic and reason. Your complete stupidity makes you want to change this into a "don't talk to strangers" issue. This poor kid was 17 years old not 5. Pretty hard to operate in life as 17 year old without having to talk to strangers. My original point in all of this was lets just wait and see what the real facts are, and that the shooter should stand trial. But your racism won't let you see that. But you keep on teaching those grandkids of yours to hate whitey. That approach works so well.
by YATI March 21, 2012 7:45 PM


I went somewhere today where I has my normal carry gun and my big ol' glock.

I'm not going to shoot a junkie for breaking into a car but I will defend your morbidly obese spouse from severe damage, but not from ridicule or someone tipping over her rascal.

I carried the big one to intimidate.
Lives are expendable. I'll take one or give one.
The gun makes it my perogative, not some junky or ne'r do well.
by turdly March 21, 2012 11:47 PM


I will also weigh and accept the consequence as best I can and as the situation warrants.

Remember that poor lump of a kid during the bombing at the Atlanta Olympics?

90% of you jackoffs were WAY wrong him.

Remember your comments from then, then shit the bell up.
by turdly March 21, 2012 11:51 PM


Stupid autocorrect.
by turdly March 21, 2012 11:53 PM


When meeting some idiot Republicopussy on the street carrying a gun, don't most people feel subjectively threatened?
So killing him is I guess, okey dokey.
Fortunately for the neanderthals, most liberals don't go around skert of everybody like macho conservodunces, do they don't usually carry guns.
Back to Old West justice.

by bury sean hannity at wounded knee March 22, 2012 8:04 AM


I don't like to get race involved in these matters but in this case it is almost unavoidable.

Zimmerman apparently was always calling 911 re: black kids in the area and, even after being told by the police to back off, he continued to follow the kid.

Also, let's assume that Zimmerman isn't a big ol' racist, if Zimmerman were black and Martin were white, does anyone realistically believe that Zimmerman wouldn't have been charged immediately?

I also wonder if the 'neighborhood watch' program knew this guy was armed. HOA is gonna get sued in a big way.
by rspringer March 22, 2012 8:22 AM


TF,TFF,U&I,etux:
Only a total Republican idiot couldn't see through this unexcusable act of violence. Just when I think you guys can't get any dumber, you manage to take it up a notch.
Man, just stupid, just stupid.
by bury sean hannity at wounded knee March 21, 2012 4:31 PM


u&i, i also watch and enjoy wolf,john king and cafferty but last night hannity
agreed 100% that zimmerman was wrong to the
point that he appeared to be stalking the
victim.he agreed that he ignored the do
not follow directive plus hannity was
really down on local police.

this is a tragic and maybe a hate crime
a la the mississippi murder but a trial comes.
first.
by dblbogey2 March 22, 2012 10:46 AM


What kind of an idiot Florida representative would enact a law like the one that brings about these kinds of problems? One written by the NRA!! So you republicodunces think allowing the gun manufacturers to write policy is alright?
by bury sean hannity at wounded knee March 22, 2012 11:48 AM


Here's what this law will resolve;

Your ass will not be floating around in a gate guarded patrolled community you do not belong in.

You will think three or four times before you break in to a house

Car jackings will decrease by 90%

simple assault/robberies will drop by 50%


Pussies are afraid of guns, most sneak type thieves are pussies/addled addicts of some sort.

Bad guys will still go to jail on weapons charges under the brandishing and felon and nuisance laws.

If everyone is armed, the violence goes way down. That's a fact. Random shootings will happen just as random folks ram bus stop benches with their cars. Whatever tool is handy when you snap is the tool you'll use.

There was a man at the Gabbie/AZ shooting that was armed. it all happened too fast for him to fire. Had he been open carry instead of concealed; it is MY opinion, based on my open carry at times when I need to make sure everyone sees that gun, that goofs like that kid scatter upon mere sight of it. The end. Unless you open carry, unless you know what caution a visible weapon instills on those that are easily instilled, just shut up.

You can speculate or you can experience. Stop speculating. I guess you all got tired of the 1% crap, I'm guessing your lame, sit at home and make a decsion that has nothing to do with you asses will tire of this.

Likely tire right after this post.
by turdly March 22, 2012 12:37 PM


That said;

It is probably a shame that kid got shot. It is probably a mental deficiency that the neighborhood watch overlooked or decided to entertain. It is going to get the watches ass sued off.


Even Jeff Dahmer walked to the store and bought munchies. Maybe it was just a 17 yearold life taken by a fringe of society type element just as Gabby was.

STOP TELLING LITTLE SHIT-THE-BED THAT HE CAN BE ANYTHING HE WANTS TO BE. RECOGNIZE THE DEFICIENCIES, EITHER OF THIS SHOOTER OR THE KID THAT WAS SHOT AND ERASE THEM AT AN EARLY AGE.

Do not coddle your barely normal child. Get his ass in line, get him a job or find a place to ship him off to.

Boys will not be boys. They will comply to societal dictate or get medicated into zombiedom and handed a shovel. YOU ALL coddle them. Stop. At Thanksgiving dinner don't skirt the issue of your nephew killing small animals, BEAT is dad bloody until he agrees to medicate that kid straight to hell.



by turdly March 22, 2012 12:46 PM


BS,

Sounds like you need to move to DC. They have about the stictest gun laws in the country, and the majority of the people there are democrats. You'll be safer than living in Mom's basement.

Check out.
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They must be all "republicodunces" supporting the NRA to make their city safe.
by YATI March 22, 2012 3:34 PM


Waaa, haaa, somebody got shot....

Been ginormously busy have no clue...just thought I'd voluntarily admit to cluelessness....come on everybody, join with me,,,,,
by you started it March 22, 2012 10:33 PM


Of course, yati, I would never expect you to figure out the problem with one small section of the country outlawing guns while the rest of the nation follows the idiot directives of the NRA and allows guns to anybody and everybody.
I heard in several states, the NRA is now directing their Republican acolytes to pass a law requiring women wanting an abortion to get a vaginal probe using a 44 magnum...but they don't have to look.
You troglodytes are such a pitifully clownish bunch of idiots. So stupid, and turdly, if you feel that much need for a gun, you boob are the pussy.
by bury sean hannity at wounded knee March 23, 2012 8:33 AM


BS,

Sounds like a good way for you to get a visectomy.

Drugs are illegal too. But I bet you still find bong filler.
by YATI March 23, 2012 9:17 AM


Bs;
You just don't see it.

My life is of Little consequence to me. It's been long and fruitful and the Poop knows to kick the plug out of the wall on the slightest concern of Major disability let alone vegetative state.
My property is of no consequence to me. A tool [gun] to ensure the safety of others when confronted with an unsafe situation is available to me. I use the tool. I use the tool to great advantage.

I have to guess that a fire extinguisher is a foolish thing to you based on few fires there actually are. Batteries are dead in your detectors and the door locks are disabled on your car.

Gun is just a tool for me. I'm guessing the doorlocks are just a tool for you. Some of us take responsibility when others will not step up to it.
As a last resort, as the guy is pulling the screaming child in to the van, I will shoot him and his vehicle. Go ahead, build the only defense to my action and ability to take that action; 'what if you hit the kid?'.

I also carry a full NY Paramedic kit along with oxygen and a surgical kit with local anesthesia and a satellite phone in the terraterror. If 50 pounds of weight is going to be the difference between being prepared to save any life, not just mine...I opted for the 50 pounds. It cost me $1000 and hopefully will never be used. But is available to all within a ham radio call that needs it. No bounds except I make a drunk driver suffer if I get a chance.

Or I can fucking stand by and wonder what happened and not take any action. I don't have to use the gun. I will use the gun. Few people know I have it. The guy I dive with that I can trust to use it if I go down and my other friend I can trust with such.

It is remote, it is almost mythical. I'll be prepared.


Pussy isn't what most people think of me on line or in person.
by turdly March 23, 2012 12:17 PM


Silly is what comes to my mind.
by bury sean hannity at wounded knee March 23, 2012 12:23 PM


Also, since I have a habit of posting back to back;

It is odd that of all the words I typed, all the scenarios I described, all the political and ethical and spiritual toes I stepped on, PUSSY is the only word you came away with. Not a retort to any of the ideas, not an explanation about how I might be incorrect, not even a biblical quote or offer of prayer.

Pussy was your only defense. I'm guessing your dog or your mom or the TV you shout at might think you make compelling arguements.


As least your response was short if not effectual or even remotely countering.
by turdly March 23, 2012 12:26 PM


I'll accept silly. It is silly. It is over the top, too much, and cartoonish in the over the top nature of my preparedness.

I can afford it. I can afford the weight, I can afford the licenses, I can afford the stigma attached. If you can afford to have your daughter bleed to death from a palmetto stab in the field, or your wife's head bashed flat during a purse snatching just let me know. I can take the ridicule.
When I show up, or those mazillions just like me, please tell them that your political/religious/personal beliefs will not allow intervention. Please let that man keep hitting my wifes head on the pavement, and don't stop the bleeding.


That's some pretty selfish shit there; not being prepared to serve/save others/self for the simple reason that it inconveniences you.

As an aside;
I can't work that med-kit. I don't have the training. I have done all I can for now by having the tool. I'll apply if needed, but it is really for others to have. Many people have skills, I have tools.
by turdly March 23, 2012 12:45 PM


By the way; I don't really think you are a pussy. I apologize for that. Too often I see guys carrying their handguns in what I would consider inappropriate places, looking all the world like ten year old boys showing off for the world how 'tough' they are. These guys are boobs. By far, most of God's people are not out to rape anyone's daughter, and in fact in this mad nation, one is more likely to have a break-in if it is common knowledge there are guns in the house. Also, one is many times more likely to be killed in a domestic situation than by a stranger.
America is becoming, more and more, a strangely idiotic place where too many especially right-winged idiots feel entitled to maintain an violent attitude torward anyone not of their clan of ignorance.
by bury sean hannity at wounded knee March 23, 2012 1:50 PM


Yes the crazies wear guns and I think the same of every open carry goof until they prove differently. Luckily there are hundreds of us watching the cowboys, for every stupid cowboy there is.
by turdly March 23, 2012 2:02 PM


Not comforting at all. Unreasonable fools with guns don't need reason; they carry their rightousness next to their stomachs, where the bile is made.
by bury sean hannity at wounded knee March 23, 2012 2:40 PM


It's all I can offer.
by turdly March 23, 2012 3:01 PM


BS,

And yet you lump everyone into the same category here daily.

Please tell me what an "inappropriate place" is?
by YATI March 23, 2012 3:37 PM


I see no reason to open carry at all unless in the field or somewhere that the impact, in the opinion of the carrier, is needed.

I very seldom open carry. At an auction with a lot of cash floating around I will. I will take off my open carry in just about every public place. But I spent the lousy $300 to have a concealed.

Open carry people are generally caliber zealots that thinly theory their gun is Christlike and all small guns are decorative.
by turdly March 23, 2012 3:58 PM


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