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HAS ANYONE GOTTEN PAID FROM A TRADE PLATFORM?

HAS ANYONE GOTTEN PAID FROM A TRADE PLATFORM?

I have been marketed by several "people" who represent small to moderate companies to invest or get investors to go into a "trade platform or a Private Placement Program (PPP)" I have also see posts about them in the past on the grapevine.

Amounts usually will vary from upfront $100-250K as "placement fees to "transfer the instrument" to me......other people say I just have to verify my money and it never leaves my account.

The average dollar amount they consistantly talk about leveraging is "100M" (although they say they prefer transactions in the "B's and T's)

The returns are weekly or monthly and are generated off a percentage of the face value of the instrument or investment (100M)

The revenue for the investor are thrown out between "3-9 million" per week, "conservatevly" and the "higher dollar invesments pay off even more."

There is "very little, to no risk"

Nobody ever seems to hold any licenses of any kind for trading,investments,or securities , ect.

Many seem to hold real estate licenses or deal with real estate, particulary commercial.

Nobody I ask seems to convince me they have personally been paid or they say that "they are under contracular aggreements to not answer that question" when I do ask.

Most of the time this takes place in Europe.

SBLC's, MTN's, CD's,CMO's, BG's,and Cash Deposits are the form of the "trade."

Noone will allow me to speak with a licensed person.
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Now my thoughts are I understand that if it looks like a duck....., but I do also know about the illuminati, and the fed....so I would also not be suprised if this trade platform IS real....

I would like to know your thoughts on trade platform legitimacy an if you know anyone who has gotten paid from it or ripped off...

Thanks
Ci








by CURIOUSinvestor September 15, 2008 12:00 AM


There is "very little, to no risk"

Nobody ever seems to hold any licenses

Most of the time this takes place in Europe.

Noone will allow me to speak with a licensed person.

it looks like a duck
by CURIOUSinvestor September 15, 2008


AFLAC!!!

by Informedisback September 15, 2008 12:00 AM


I know a guy who used to sit in his bedroom for years, getting high, and selling these things to unsuspecting morons. Total scam- no offense- he was just SUCH a dirtbag, and I couldn´t see how anyone could go for this- but they did- he still NEVER made a dime that I saw...
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by ttersigni September 17, 2008 12:00 AM


www.quatloos.com/prime-bank_HYIP.htm

The PPP scam has been around for years. This site gives some good insight into the ´programs´
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by alex8358 November 3, 2008 12:00 AM


alex8358,

first of all, I know for a fact that trading programs do pay out, at least for awhile in some cases. Other than that, why are you "soliciting"?
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by realestatejoe November 17, 2008 12:00 AM


CI, they do exist but there are a great deal of Brokers out there that claim they are next to a trader but still never deliver. I´ve referred two clients this week that have been waiting for a month for the platform to proceed. There are also levels of programs out there which some only deal with cash while others like hard assets, so ask questions and see what options are available through the particular broker/intermediary you are speaking. There are a couple that will deal with a leased account that I´m aware of but for the most part they don´t. Cash is always king but there are always options. I´ve submitted packages of above ground assets, in ground assets, cash, & leased accounts (major bank), & financial paper which have gone through or are in the process. Many platforms are starting to shut down now and will not take new clients until mid Jan - Feb 09 because of the holidays.
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by jaccib01 November 28, 2008 12:00 AM



I have spent a great deal of time involved in researching platforms and from my experience it´s not the platform but the relationship that you have with people. You stand a greater chance of getting things done if your direct which takes time.

I have several sources:

* one platform is very flexible they´re closing down on December 12th and the other source is a private international bank and they will work throughout the holidays.

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by financeeurope December 14, 2008 12:00 AM


I´m in a platform now, the above information just makes me laugh and feel sorry at the same time.

One born every minute.

by gbooth December 14, 2008 12:00 AM


I have direct access to the faciltator who can take you directly to the Trade Platform and from then on you are dealing directly with the platform.

Your money should never ever leave from your account and you should always be in control of your money/account,


I have read alot of these messages and this is the first that I have ever responded. Alot of you on here confess that you know how PPP programs work such as
MTN= MID TERM NOTES, when in real reality you don´t.


I would like to state that this is not a solicitation.....
KK
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by Kingkohl December 14, 2008 12:00 AM


This is for Educational Purposes ONLY...
by Kingkohl December 14, 2008


An education in PLAGIARISM maybe,




http://www.articlesbase.com/finance-articles/how-private-trade-programs-generate-enormous-returns-654843.html


and

http://fixmyloans.com/the-mechanics-of-a-mtn-private-trading-program/



Jackass!
by Informedisback December 14, 2008 12:00 AM


I never said I wrote it , I was just showing how the PPP work.

No need for calling names.

The Author Daniel Bruckner and Marcel Ford wrote this for educational purposes only, and I thought I would share it.

Hope you are having a Good Life :)

Best Wishes
KK

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by JusticeMan January 23, 2009 8:37 PM


Trading Platforms are real. Google Pimco - it's a trading platform where governments borrow funds from other governments.

These are real and I've been invested for two years. Our returns are awesome. It's not easy getting in, it took years of research and many more years of building contacts at that level.

For example - a small group of banks that just received a total of $30 billion in bailout funds pooled their funds and placed them on a platform. 100% return per week. Guess who the losers are? The average investor who buys the instruments that the platform (market makers) support.

If you don't want to lose money, get on a platform.

Good hunting.
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by alex8358 February 2, 2009 12:31 PM


Simply put, look at Madoff.
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by kingfusion February 6, 2009 8:16 PM


Where do you butt-heads come from? the Bradynet????? go back to where you joker broker's belong!!......

"and the LOI can go up to for 10 Trillion USD"


hahahaaaahahaa!!! why don't you guys pay off our national defecit?!?!
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by dang007 February 12, 2009 7:57 PM


How can I verify a facilitator and platform as legit, before I get my client involved. The ones I have talked with keep changing the rules "new programs" and I do not want my clients to back off from a real financial program.
by texastar February 17, 2009 10:59 PM


Background check... Typically they won't allow you to do so until you are RWA (ready willing and able). Just imagine on how many background checks would be done if people where just shoppers. Once compliance has been done on their part you too have the right to do a background check on the trader, collateral provider, etc....

My recommendation is dealing with people who are transparent. My only recommendation is go through the process and keep in mind that before signing any contracts OR even wiring funds OR even Blocking of funds... You have already done all the due dilligence necessary to feel comfortable to move forward.

I must warn you though... If you shop and platforms will know.. You will be black listed. Private Placements are what it is PRIVATE... and is by invitation only. I wouldn't trust brokers to bring clients directly to trade because this should be sacred to them. What if a client backs out, the broker is risking to also be black listed.

hope this helps
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by HOPE2008 March 5, 2009 12:57 AM


Kim, I thought you already had a "platform" but I see you've been looking for others?! I almost feel like you're a two-timer!! but don't worry, I posted on another thread to raise monies for you and me! We'll split 50/50 and go on a vacation to Cabo! I so look forward to it! Remember, I am always working in your behalf, my "pay upfront" angel!!
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by JV Seeker March 12, 2009 6:16 PM


Focus equity,

I have questions about these trade platforms. I have been invited to join one but have questions. If you do not mind emailing me at lmeverest@gmail.com and I can give you my info from there.

Thank you

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by phantomplatform2 May 12, 2009 12:41 AM


For the most part the joker broker business is really the circumvention business.

If you want to waste a lot of time, this is a good business to go into.

MTN's,BG's,Gold,etc on the internet are a waste of time.

Would any legit buyer or seller do business on the internet?

Think about it, commissions in the millions available for brokers/intermediaries who have no experience or expertise just to facilitate a transaction.

I've heard the stories about how someone got paid on one of these deals(with no supporting documentation as proof).

99% of these people are dreamers, looking to get rich quick.


by number22 May 12, 2009 2:28 PM


Nothing more pathetic than uninformed mortgage brokers taking on a topic that they know nothing about!Please stick to what you know which is basically nothing and leave the investing to the professionals. Here you go morons... 144a is an SEC rule that modifies the two year lockup requirement on private placement securities. 144a allows debt or equity private placements to trade to and from “QIGs” or qualified institutional investors with above $100 million of investments. Banks must pass a $25 million minimum net worth test to qualify as QIG for 144a trades. 144a securities are often called “restricted securities.” 144a dramatically increases the liquidity for private placements. The SEC’s 1990 adoption of Rule 144a plowed new fields for expanded private debt markets to something more like the public bond market than strict 144 placements. Unlike what the current Rule 144a allows, private placements had two year lockups until 1990. Many investment banks have dedicated 144a desks or “private placement” trading desks. These 144a desks specialize in issuance and trading of Rule 144a private issuer securities with 144a registration rights. 144a specifies that buyers at issue may buy with intention to trade. 144a exclusions prohibit circumvention: securities that, at private placement issuance "comparable" with other current U.S. listed or NASADAQ securities of the issuer are ineligible Rule 144a resale. Smaller companies without public markets seasoning find Rule 144a attractive: with 144a institutional market liquidity is added without the cost of going public. Larger companies with debt issued to the public find Rule 144a attractive: they can fill in rates and maturity ladders with smaller amounts. Investment banks like 144a availability: 144a securities add flexibility to their issuer funding and investor offerings.
by ccbroker1 May 16, 2009 3:40 PM


Nothing more pathetic than uninformed mortgage brokers taking on a topic that they know nothing about!Please stick to what you know which is basically nothing and leave the investing to the professionals. Here you go morons... 144a is an SEC rule that modifies the two year lockup requirement on private placement securities. 144a allows debt or equity private placements to trade to and from “QIGs” or qualified institutional investors with above $100 million of investments. Banks must pass a $25 million minimum net worth test to qualify as QIG for 144a trades. 144a securities are often called “restricted securities.” 144a dramatically increases the liquidity for private placements. The SEC’s 1990 adoption of Rule 144a plowed new fields for expanded private debt markets to something more like the public bond market than strict 144 placements. Unlike what the current Rule 144a allows, private placements had two year lockups until 1990. Many investment banks have dedicated 144a desks or “private placement” trading desks. These 144a desks specialize in issuance and trading of Rule 144a private issuer securities with 144a registration rights. 144a specifies that buyers at issue may buy with intention to trade. 144a exclusions prohibit circumvention: securities that, at private placement issuance "comparable" with other current U.S. listed or NASADAQ securities of the issuer are ineligible Rule 144a resale. Smaller companies without public markets seasoning find Rule 144a attractive: with 144a institutional market liquidity is added without the cost of going public. Larger companies with debt issued to the public find Rule 144a attractive: they can fill in rates and maturity ladders with smaller amounts. Investment banks like 144a availability: 144a securities add flexibility to their issuer funding and investor offerings.
by ccbroker1 May 16, 2009 3:40 PM
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Thank you ccbroker

I love it when someone tells the truth about this stuff. I know a few of you know what you're doing,but 99% of us do not. You're a mortgage broker one day and a broker/intermediary the next? ain't gonna happen


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by clubmillion June 13, 2009 3:27 PM


07-13-2009

Well Well Well. It looks like my creation of this thread has ended up more popular than I could have ever imagined.

A lot has happened since to me since I first posted this topic.

Shortly after Dec 2008 I decided that this PPP Trade Platform stuff was fake and quit the business, spending the 1st 3 months of 2009 like many of you--UNEMPLOYED.

My buddy who unfortunately got me into this has ended up staying in it and went huge with it taking in $2M worth of deposits and losing over $1.8 million of investors money, he foolishly trusted "contacts" over the phone and he is who I use as my example of why you shouldn't waste your time with this nonsense.

He is someone who really, really wanted to believe in all this, and truly, truly believed that by today he would be rich and retired and that we could all "quit our jobs."

He had and continues to have the idea was that we would all be earning $10 million a month in the platform.

That is nice in theory, and I appreciate him bringing me along for the ride if it happened, but this was just not the case, I had the brains and foresight to see this 6 months ahead of time and I tried to help him realize this as his friend.

He did not listen to me and insisted that if I wasn't with him I was against him and I was cut outta the will if anything ever went down....

I am glad he cut me.

I bumped into him yesterday after 3 months of me working a normal 9-5 day job he was very honest about how the past 6 months have been for him:

His reputation is ruined, he has Madoff with investors money, and the worst part is he is being evicted,----he ran through 1.8M of investor money and can't even pay his rent!!!

He has lost his girlfriend, his friends, he cant pay his bills, he refuses to get a normal job---This man used to be the hardest most disciplined and dedicated man I knew, he was my mentor and I owe a lot to him, BUT now he has lost the meaning of what an honest days work is. His now dissolved corporation was being sued and now he is civilly being sued by those investors he duped.

The most disturbing part is after I spoke with him today and after all this. AFTER ALL THIS.. his "partner" said to him the same thing he has been saying to him since I left this business and that is "that we are done and we will be getting paid next Wed."

So sad.....poor guy...

This man has ruined his life because of this business not to mention the poor guys he duped into believing he could "finance" their "commercial developments."

It is all very sad to me.

NOW. on to my final thoughts with this thread and the PPP's. They very well may exist. BUT you mooks (myself included) are not privy to this. You all wannabe but you are not.

PLEASE NOTE:
So I am not totally pessimistic to you all I have included a link so you haters who believe this is real can read it and keep holding on to the dream and form your own opinion. Let me tell you it is compelling though...

http://www.reuters.com/article/fundsFundsNews/idUSN2230037320070723



1) Who the F--- knows someone with $100M or $50M or screw it: $5M to do a transaction like this?

2)Why in the heck would someone like that deal with YOU with his finances?

YOU = Unlicensed person/Unlicensed Investment Advisor
YOU = Know nothing about securities game or what exactly it is that you're selling YOU = Know nothing about exactly how it works
YOU = Never been paid or have solid proof your "contacts" have been paid.
YOU = Play telephone with programs regurgetated by other joker brokers.
YOU = Someone who never used letters like M B and T as in 10M, 1B, and 1T until now

Listen up!!!

Someone with that net worth has lots of financial advisors, tons of attornies and would probably either be pretty smart or pretty lucky to acquire that kind of money. 50M? 100M? If they wanted to invest 5M let me tell you they are not going to go to some broker or poser over the internet or YOU.


3) Nobody you speak to is EVER licensed except MABEY by the DRE which means they are probably a failed Mortgage Broker and they probably took advantage of a lot of people over the past 5 years with unscruplous fees and bad loans. WATCH OUT>

4) Everybody solicts this but uses some verbage at the bottom of their emails that plainly states they are not soliciting, and not a licensed securities broker or dealer.

THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE A SERIES 65 LICENSE WHICH IS AN INVESTMENT ADVISOR LICENSE.

THIS IS THE ABSOLUTE MINIMUM SOMEONE WHO IS PITCHING THIS LEVEL OF MONEY TO SOMEONE SHOULD HAVE. AFTER ALL IT IS AN INVESTMENT....

BUT they know a program who's returns are 500% a month.


BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH Same stuff re-stated that hasn't already been restated in the previous posts above. MTN, MT-760, ect.

If I couldn't help my friend I am glad I have created this post to mabey help all of you. I was even reading and apparently I helped an attorney recover a 1.3M sum of money.

FYI My buddy knows STEVE WOOD TOO he was one of his "contacts" for a while there I remember my buddy and his "partner" highly recommended STEVE WOOD as the real deal.
Look how that turned out.

DAVID KAUP is also a thief. STAY AWAY FROM HIM AT ALL COSTS.

Bottom line is 99% of the people in this business are fake. The 1% is what continue to drive this business.


That's all.
That's it.
I'm done.
Curious Investor signing off.
Good Luck and I consider this matter

CLOSED.
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PS: I got a new program for you. I got a guy, he lives behind Ralph's supermarket and he has this program that they just rolled out. It closes next week and who knows when they will be accepting investors again. $.05 get you $40M per day traunching up to 1B. Send me CIS...POF...we will issue LOI and get into trade. We pay out next Wed.

LOL
L8er


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by phantomplatform2 July 21, 2009 12:32 PM


Re: Platform Trade question- The answer is Yes.

I would not believe it except I know of it personally as an onlooker.

I have two friends who are actively involved as traders. The stories you have heard of high incomes are possible.

I also know there are many scams out there.

Ron
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I own a very large rock quarry ( 2 billon tons of rock ) I have been told I should use it for Platform trading , I was wondering if anyone could give information on this . is it a good or bad idea, Rockquarry
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Has anyone ever dealt with Omar Fitzgerald?
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by phantomplatform2 September 5, 2009 7:32 AM


In dealing with MTNs, PROOF ONLY and BOND programs under $10M you will not find any that work unless they are syndicated with a group of other investors and in that case you will have to rely on someone else to pay you and more than likely it will not work. The only trades that work for smaller amounts $250k to $9M are trade platforms that deal in Foreign currency, T-Bills and Options. I personally have my funds in a FX trade as well as an ODL trade(Options & Futures). If you have questions please feel free to email me, I would be happy to share proof of my trade reports if it helps anyone prevent from losing their/their clients funds.

Before I found my current trader, I lost about $200,000.00 in fake FX scams or trades about 5 years ago. They promised me that my funds were blocked and that they were trading with a credit line they secured using our(a group of us investors') blocked funds. I also heard that our stop loss was set at 15% per trade cycle. It turns out nothing was ever traded and our funds were gone. After 5 years of searching through trial and error and meeting with real FX traders the FX world is not so secret or glamorous. Here is realistically how the true/best FX traders operate.
Think of it this way, you own a NASCAR team and you have a car, and you have to hire a professional driver to drive your car, since you yourself are not the professional just the money backing the professional, that is very similar to how true FX trades work on a smaller level less than $10M. Basically you have your platform with whom you have a direct contract with (i.e Oanda or IB are the largest). If you have the proper connections and funds you can open up a Master Trade account rather than just a trade account. WIth that Master Trade Account comes the ability to setup sub accounts. You the owner have two sets of passwords. One set is the Master set which allows you to withdraw funds, deposit funds, set the stop loss procedures, set the margin etc.. The other set is for the "driver/trader". This gives him access to only trade the account, not change the settings or withdraw or move funds. He cannot even pay himself.
All the top traders have their own strategy and mathematical algorithm they have designed. Top traders are very difficult to come by just like top racecar drivers. You can have all the money in the world and the best platform to facilitate the trades but without the best driver"trader" you will not end up in the red. Make sure you have a contract with your trader directly that outlines the percentage split as well as proof of his personal trade account prior to entering a contract.

The trader I use to trade my account as well as a few of my close investor clients averages about a 7 to 22% return per month. If you have any questions about anything please email me as I know I wish someone would have cut the learning curve down for myself, it would have saved me hundreds of thousands of dollars.
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by woogietech September 16, 2009 2:16 PM


Bunch of butt fuking thieveing douche bags all trying to screw somebody out of a buck
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by tonysoffe September 30, 2009 1:19 AM


Has anyone been exposed to an "Insurance Wrap" program? My friend from the Netherlands tells me they are common in Europe.Somehow it becomes a financial instrument that is "tradable" through a platform scenario.
by codyman64 October 6, 2009 12:16 PM


somebody is going to have to "pay" for the wrap, usually the client, and thus the scam. otherwise if the platform rep side of the transaction claims to cover the expense - they will want to have control of the collateral and have it assigned to themselves - and that opens another door for a scam
by dark pool October 6, 2009 3:21 PM


Is there such a thing as a list of approved platform traders? Or at least a trade group for them as bonified members?
by codyman64 October 6, 2009 5:44 PM


no. these are by invites only and no solicitation. kind of a needle in a haystack.
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by BrianCox October 31, 2009 4:49 PM


I have a client who is about to place a trade on a PPP- apparently the trade is MTN's, heavily discounted (buying at 40%) and purchased from a cutting room. These are then sold on for a margin and profits paid out.

Has anyone heard of discounted MTN's from a cutting room? Thanks.
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by isthisforreal November 23, 2009 3:50 AM


Hello All

I have limited information here. My UK based friend has got invloved in a Trading Platform, with some guy in Germany, who is meant to be a billionaire. My friend had to set up a Swiss bank account (the German contact owns the Swiss bank apparently). He had to sign some forms and post them some identity etc (his passport etc). He also had to go to a solicitor to sign some contract. He has not parted with any money as far as I am aware, but yet he has been promised £100,000 will be paid into the Swiss bank account and then a further £900,000 in the same week. These were due end of Oct, and there has been every excuse as to why its been delayed, something along the lines of 'due dilligence' and 'people in the paymaster chain holding onto the money' but the payments are now allegedly due at the end of this month. I thought it was possible to make same day transactions, even with large sms of money so i dont know what the hold up would be. It makes me think its a big scam.

The german contact paid in £10 million into my friend's swiss bank account by mistake, (as this was intended for another paymaster in the chain), so the bank put an automatic stop on it and the payment was returned. (Im sure this is just part of the scam to put confidence in my friend that the whole thing is real, as he could see the money in his account), apparently £20,000 has now been paid into the swiss bank account (which he can see, and is intended for him), but apparently my friend cannot access it for 3 months.

Call me a skeptic, but I just cant see how someone can get in with a contact that is a billionaire, become part of an 8 person paymaster chain or something, not put any money into it, and yet get a £1 million pay out within a matter of months???

can someone shed some light, is any of this possible, or is this a big scam .. if so, how does the scam really work?
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by phantomplatform2 December 9, 2009 5:07 AM


Hi phantomplatform2

I have read your responses in other places regarding Richard Schulenberg. The very fact you state these individuals are under investigation but that you are not saying they have done anything wrong, does not clear you from plagiarism.

In fact you are creating a negative view on a top lawyer, who was the Director of CBS, a University professor, other various music studios and has written a book that all universities with a legal course in entertainment have in their libraries. Understand I am not he, but I do know of the person you speak. I think you need to understand that the funds went missing from the party outside of the Escrow, the very fact that he and thousands of lawyers deal in escrow, doesn't mean they are responsible if the party who receives the funds vanishes with it. He is a lawyer not a policeman. I suggest for your own good, you get your facts right and I suggest you discontinue using his name, when he has a perfect record and great references and honours and respect from all the people in the business.

A
by Furrybannanas December 11, 2009 9:48 PM


.............................FIRST OF ALL PEOPLE....... THERE IS NO LIST OF PLATFORMS...... THE VERY FEW IN EXISTENCE ARE INVITATION ONLY..... 2ND OF ALL THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A PLATFORM "CLOSING".... AND ANY OF YOU THAT HAVE GIVEN YOU INFORMATION OUT TO SOLICIT PEOPLE YOU WOULD BE BANNED FROM THESE EUROPEAN TRADERS IF THEY EVER GOT WIND OF YOU PUTTING YOURSELF OUT THERE. THEY ARE REAL AND THEY EXIST AND PEOPLE DO GET PAID. NO MIDDLE MEN ARE EVER NEEDED.... THE INVITES GET SENT TO THE BIG DOGS DIRECTLY.
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by realdealer December 16, 2009 1:31 AM


FerryBananas:

I understand escrow well. You clearly understand I have not said anything about Mr. Schulenberg
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Where do you have the proof he has an unblemished record?

I have PROOF there are two open cases with the California Bar Association which means there are two formal complaints.

Hmmm...I do not think this is plagiarism. If you are bored check out RIP-OFF Report.com - then ask Mike Noonan (wired 600k to Schulenberg) or Mr. Jones/ New Image LLC 500k tp Schulenberg or Mr Dang 500k - Ask them if they think Mr. Richard Schulenberg is a stand up attorney.

I am sure they have an opinion

by phantomplatform2 December 29, 2009 11:17 PM


Am I the only person who has noticed that there are NO PEOPLE on here that are saying, "Yes, I am involved with a platform and have been paid just as agreed."

Also, every so-called legitimate source has a generic email- aol, gmail, etc.- and it seems there is no evidence that legitimate companies are involved.

I have clients who have been promised loans from a platform for 16 months now and have seen NOTHING- just a lot of empty talk. I would love to believe, but I tell them all to plan as though they will never see funds.
by Scalded in Georgia December 30, 2009 10:16 AM


I have been reading with interest the blogs attached to this discussion could someone tell me the steps involved in Platform Trading is there a currency card and quota card to be issued before payment is initiated.
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by derrickhales January 19, 2010 11:24 AM


I am involved in several trades and I am being paid as agreed. (proof is available upon request)

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by safeinvestor January 29, 2010 11:13 AM


We are ready to look for Platform Trader (Private) in any platform that is legit and has the true potential. What type of evidence do we need to ask our Platform Trader to prove? How do we know which Trader to use, can we have a direct Trader instead of a Broker? Could anyone recommend any name of the program? Where can I find those listed programs and if they are available to private eyes only, platforms are not supposed to be shared, right?

My Trader told me that she could prove successes because she said the platforms are not supposed to be shared? I told her if she is that successful, why doesn't she provide me evidence such as her bank account to let me know if she already earned hundred million of dollars like she promised. She told me that mine will return between 30-85% in one week, she will only collect 5%. Even if that is the case, she should be in the hundred of millions by now if she closed a few trades already. Please help or email me at asmehost@yahoo.com

Thank you.
by ElaineHuynh February 1, 2010 4:09 AM


100% of you guys on here are lairs. If you have completed or even came close to a real buy-sell transaction you wouldn't be on here trying to solicit new clients. But I love these sites, because it keeps all the losers away from real investors and programs.
Money create more opportunities, I don't have to put my information on here to find a client to take into a program. I won't take anyone in anyways because the internet shopping has corrupted your minds on this business. If you're looking to get involved in a real buy-sell program; stop shopping the internet. Turn off your computer and get in front of some real bankers and create good realationships. This is how you find a real buysell.
You Joker Brokers make this business harder than it has to be. Completing a transaction is easy... You load mouths come on here bragging about your clients is a bunch of BS. If you have a client with a 100M instrument why you on here.

Real Investors looking to get involved with a real group stay off these blog sites looking for the real deal on blogs, It's like finding a piece of hair in grass. lol...

And for the brokers who wants to contact me about my comments go to www.gotohell.com

Best Wishes!!



by business2010 February 2, 2010 12:22 AM


just my 2 cents as too shulenberg , phantom is correct in his assumptions ,ive had personal dealings with shulenberg (film Finance) and all my clients (this was 3 ywears ago or so ) lost there "upfront fees"), there is on going litagation as we speak.... i'm not disparging anyone just relaying my own experience ...........
looks like he's moved into a new shall i say scam i.e.
platforms (nonsense).............. well ther you have it ..
all the best
Tom


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by verifiedreturns August 2, 2010 10:08 PM


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by phantomplatform2 August 18, 2010 10:29 PM


People pay attention, you can not find the real traders...they find you through the hard work and contacts you develop then invite you to participate. You are to maintain sole control of your money/account and sign a contract. Real platforms don't need your money only the leverage. After all it's not what you know But who you know when it comes to trading. So get off the internet, learn to spell and stop giving up control of your money...oh did I just act silly, now thats what real big money will do, all together now! I'm happy R U.
by happytrader September 2, 2010 4:51 PM


They do exist, but sadly fraud exists as well. RUN from the following individuals who are responsible for the outright theft of $200k from a Platform deal: Tom Tersigni, Mark Young, Randy Lape, Al Vargas. Funds were supposedly held in escrow with a 10% loss risk....escrow funds were withdrawn immediately for their own lifestyles. RUN and don't give these little men who lack character and integrity the time of day. They will be reaping what they've sown....if they haven't already.
by Mike22 November 18, 2010 10:46 AM


I have been dooped out of 675k from one of these Platforms, or so called a wealth Defense Group and a couple jerks by the name Of Rob Busch out for Florida and Joe Tangonan out of San Diego. Straight up crooks!! they are there to get the money but try and find them when you want it back. They hide to try and beat it out on time, they leftme broke enough to not have enough to sue them. Watch out for these guys
by Dooped December 8, 2010 4:05 PM


Yes, platforms exist. I have a friend who was paid as a broker on a $1 M trade and I have talked to top-level bankers who have been involved. $1 M trades that are real are rare but they exist. I am direct to a principal of several platforms and in touch with several people who are involved peripherally in trades (as CPAs etc.) Real platforms do not put money at risk, they do not require money to be moved unless there is a special JV involved, and there are no fees to be paid to a broker etc - ever.
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by dbenlin June 29, 2011 6:29 PM


Well , I came across this forum / thread a while back about 6-8 months ago because i was searching to see if stuff like this was legit.

The only reason I was searching for it was because my dad had gotten in to a trade program such as the ones you guy are speaking of.

I was scared it was fake because my family was really low on money. But , in the end the deals came threw and I am now living in an 11 million dollar beach house on the shore of Newport beach. The only reason I am posting about this is because I just wanted to let all the fools above that things like this are real. But if you want to find a legit deal you won't find them threw the Internet forsure . Find the real brokers and investors out in the real world. I just wanted to give a spark of hope for people out there.

My family is now living happy and with very little stress. I am glad things like this do exist
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by ibb September 25, 2011 5:33 AM


Chris Z, please send us the address of your $11 Million house so we can check the tax records. Thank you

Norman B, you must belong in jail. Why? There is NO such thing as a "leased" SBLC. Anyone who knows how to Google search, without any MBA or PhD, can verify such.

A standby letter of credit ("SBLC") is an irrevocable agreement or contract between an Issuing Bank (where the liquid assets reside) and a receiving or Beneficiary bank - usually the one making the loan to the Borrower. One bank agrees to pay the other in event of a default. That's it. Ya can't trade 'em and ya can't sell 'em either.

And there's no such thing a as a darn "cutting house" either. It's a binding agreement.... bank to bank... delivered via SWIFT code, not FAX nor paper anymore.

Why don't you guys PLEASE go apply for a job and work instead of trying to steal money from innocent, less educated people seeking capital for their business needs.

Give me a break.



by Deal$Maker October 12, 2011 10:13 PM


Chris Z, please send us the address of your $11 Million house so we can check the tax records. Thank you

Norman B, you must belong in jail. Why? There is NO such thing as a "leased" SBLC. Anyone who knows how to Google search, without any MBA or PhD, can verify such.

A standby letter of credit ("SBLC") is an irrevocable agreement or contract between an Issuing Bank (where the liquid assets reside) and a receiving or Beneficiary bank - usually the one making the loan to the Borrower. One bank agrees to pay the other in event of a default. That's it. Ya can't trade 'em and ya can't sell 'em either.

And there's no such thing a as a darn "cutting house" either. It's a binding agreement.... bank to bank... delivered via SWIFT code, not FAX nor paper anymore.

Why don't you guys PLEASE go apply for a job and work instead of trying to steal money from innocent, less educated people seeking capital for their business needs.

Give me a break.



by Deal$Maker October 12, 2011 10:14 PM


Deal$Maker hit this one on the head. You can never lease a banking instrument because it does not exist and is illegal. It is being done internationally because the banking laws are so laxed that it really goes unnoticed. Be advised that when you have 35 yrs in banking as I do then you will see who is for real and full of BS. Most of these brokers who want to hit the big time can't do it because they don't know how to research.

I have a client who has trillions of inground/above ground assets and will not present it for trade until I have found or located an actual bank who will perform the actual trade via the exchange. Only top ten world banks can do this because of the $$$ involved has to be leveraged. Be very careful...
by titan8151@hotmail.com October 16, 2011 8:36 AM


Trillions?

It's not above ground refuse "waste" wet, coal like the asset that Steve Golia is pitching at IBCS for Surety Bonds. Just pay him $7K and he'll get to work. I bet.


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I have friends in the US ( I am in the UK) who have provided "above ground assets" to an asset manager in the US who is connected with a "foundation" with connections to a trading platform in Australia> As I have never seen one of these things work in over fifteen years I am still supicious. This has been going on since October last year and the paperwork is very professional. They have spoken to attorneys for the other side etc. NO money has changed hands and they have been promised contracts "within ten working days" As they owe me money I am just praying it is true. What am I missing here?
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CRF

We have already submitted our package and all seems well at the moment. I am just on pins right now as this will send my company forward. I know it is easy to say but I cannot believe that hundreds of people (who do not take fees upfront) waste their time on this.My only concern is if it really worked then surely once would be enough for anybody. Why would you need to seek new business?
by gregooo99 March 20, 2012 11:22 AM


Hello

Would like to hear from people who have got involved with CMO trading, or have been ripped off by this form of trading, the returns just sound to good to be true. I know people who have invested with people promoting these schemes and have got nothing in return. All they got eas excuses and the runaround, does this sound familiar to anyone. Would love to hear from anyone who has had an experience with this sort of scheme.

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Dear Sir,
We are direct provider for BG/SBLC specifically for lease, at leasing price of (5.0 + 2)% of face value, Issuance by HSBC Bank London , Barclays Bank London , Deutsche Bank, BNP Paribas, & AAA Rated Banks in Europe, Middle East or USA.

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Thank you
by Hussainltd July 28, 2013 4:40 AM


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I am writing to inform you that we are direct providers of Fresh Cut BG,SBLC,MTN,Bonds and CDs which we have specifically for lease.
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Dear Sir,
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Our BG/SBLC Financing can help you get your project funded, loan financing by providing you with yearly renewable leased bank instruments. We work directly with issuing bank lease providers, this Instrument can be monetized on your behalf for 100% funding: For further details contact us with the below information.

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Thank you
by hussainltd1 September 13, 2013 3:47 AM


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We have direct providers of Fresh Cut BG, SBLC and MTN which are specifically for lease. Our bank instrument can be engaged in PPP Trading, Discounting, Signature Project(s) such as Aviation, Agriculture, Petroleum, Telecommunication, Construction of Dams, Bridges, Real Estate and all kind of projects. We do not have any broker chain in our offer neither do we get involved in chauffer driven offers. We deliver with time and precision as set forth in our agreement. Our terms and Conditions are reasonable, below is our instrument description.

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